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CNN Panel: Avoiding Armed Conflict Is One Thing Trump Is Consistent On

Fri, 06/21/2019 - 18:35
In an interview airing in full on NBC's "Meet the Press," President Donald Trump said he decided a strike that would kill 150 people, because it was "not proportionate" to Iran striking down an unmanned drone. CNN's John King hosts a panel discussion about what this could mean.

Chuck Todd: By Showing Iran He Doesn't Want To Kill Anybody, Trump Is Signaling He Wants To Talk

Fri, 06/21/2019 - 18:29
NBC's "Meet the Press" host Chuck Todd talks about the first clip from his exclusive interview with President Trump that will air in full on Sunday. In the interview, Trump discusses his decision to cancel a planned strike on Iran at the last minute. "Some people have said he should have known about the casualty amount earlier. Here's my impression: I don't think he ever planned on giving the green light. He doesn't say that, but he seemed to be inching away from that the entire time, you could see it yesterday. So I can't help but wonder if some of this was, 'Bolton and Pompeo, show me what you got,'" Chuck Todd theorized. "I do think in some ways, the president already has a reputation for not telegraphing very well, and seeming to do one thing and then another... but I do think the president believes is by making it clear he didn't want to kill anybody he's sending a message to the leaders of Iran that he wants to talk."

NBC's Richard Engel: U.S. Would Struggle To Battle Iranian Proxy Forces, Could Threaten Israel And Saudi Arabia

Fri, 06/21/2019 - 18:23
NBC foreign correspondent Richard Engel discusses the capabilities of Iranian proxy forces to fight Americans and U.S. allies around the world. Via Friday's edition of MSNBC's "Velshi & Ruhle." "It is a different kind of power than we have seen used by other countries in the middle east," he said. "So if there were to be a conflict between the U.S. and Iran it would look nothing like the 203 invasion of Iraq, where the U.S. was fighting against Saddam Hussein's army, which really was an antiquated analog army that was obliterated by the vastly superior force of the American armed forces." "Sure, the American outgun Iran by an overwhelming amount, but Iran has these spread out proxies that are quite effective and that I think the U.S. would struggle to deal with."

Nancy Pelosi: "Must Have The Authority Of Congress Before We Initiate Military Hostilities Into Iran"

Fri, 06/21/2019 - 17:46
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told reporters on Capitol Hill Friday that he is "glad" President Trump decided not to attack Iran last night, saying such a strike would be "very provocative." HOUSE SPEAKER NANCY PELOSI: I think the message was bipartisan in terms of de-escalating based on a couple of things. First of all, we have no illusions about Iran. It's a very dangerous country and there are divisions within the country about hard-liners versus others. There was bipartisan consensus that we didn't want to do anything that would strengthen the hand of hard-liners in Iran because that just makes matters worse. Consensus that we should be working with our allies in whatever we do and calibrating a response that is strategic and serious about the challenge we face. And bipartisanship as to what are our objectives in the region. We have to protect American interests, but how do we define what they are? And so we left with the idea that the president was going to consider some options. I did not receive any heads up that there was a strike that was in the works. Maybe the other leaders did on the Republican side, but I did not receive any of that. And that would be a departure. The president has informed us, for example, in Syria before we went in. REPORTER: Have you spoken to the president today at all? PELOSI: No. I haven't spoken to the president today. [ inaudible question ] PELOSI: We don't know how imminent the strike was, we hear different things, but a strike of that amount of collateral damage would be very provocative and I'm glad that the President did not take that. I think there are many options that are not kinetic, as they say, a strike on the country, that might be more useful. Those are options the president might be considering, but let me be very clear, the Democrats in the meeting --House and Senate Democrats-- were very clear that Congress must act. He must have the authority of Congress before we initiate military hostilities into Iran. REPORTER: The president seems to suggest that he found out about the apparent death toll if they had gone through with the strike just moments they would have conducted the strike. Isn't that something you think he should have known about beforehand? PELOSI: You know, I don't know the timing of when the president learned the consequences of it. I don't even know how off the ground these planes were. That's something you just have to ask the White House. It would make sense if you are considering options that you know what the consequences are before you make a decision to go forward.

FNC's Chris Wallace: Does President Trump Have The "Stomach" To Attack Iran?

Fri, 06/21/2019 - 17:34
"Fox News Sunday" anchor Chris Wallace reacted on air Friday to a New York Times report that President Trump almost ordered air strikes on Iran Thursday night but changed his mind at the last minute because of the projected loss of life. Trump told NBC's Chuck Todd in an interview that will air in full on Sunday's "Meet the Press" that the possibility of 150 casualties was "not proportionate" to Iran shooting down an unmanned drone. "A war with Iran would be a very ugly and prolonged conflict... So it does raise the question: Does the president have the stomach to launch this kind of attack and get more deeply involved, perhaps, in a confrontation with Iran?" Wallace mused. "Any discussion of what collateral damage in terms of the deaths on the ground would be is discussed at that point before the president gives a new order as to what various targets he wants to hit," Wallace added. "The idea that 10 minutes before the strike has the president says how many people are going to be killed if we go ahead with those strikes, that usually is discussed in depth a great deal for that." "Donald Trump as a candidate - and even as the president - said that there was a real cost of that in terms of the U.S. Threatening to do something and not going ahead and doing it so there's a cost to action and also a cost to inaction," he said. "What the president is going to do now, who knows," Wallace concluded. "There is certainly a possibility that he will go ahead and order another strike when he's assured that there will not be as many casualties on the ground but on the other hand, it sure does seem like he doesn't have much of an appetite for a strike."

Trump to Chuck Todd: I Stopped Iran Attack Before It Happened, Killing 150 People Is Not Proportionate

Fri, 06/21/2019 - 17:13
In an interview for Sunday's 'Meet the Press,' President Trump told NBC's Chuck Todd that a plan to deliver a proportionate response to Iran downing a U.S. drone "ready to go, subject to my approval" until he found out there would be a possibility of 150 casualties. "I thought about it for a second and I said, you know what, they shot down an unmanned drone, plane, whatever you want to call it, and here we are sitting with a 150 dead people that would have taken place probably within a half an hour after I said go ahead," Trump told Todd on Friday. "And I didn't like it, I didn't think, I didn't think it was proportionate." Trump said that he was "cocked and loaded" to bomb Iran but decided not to. He explained his decision in a series of tweets Friday morning:

....Death to America. I terminated deal, which was not even ratified by Congress, and imposed strong sanctions. They are a much weakened nation today than at the beginning of my Presidency, when they were causing major problems throughout the Middle East. Now they are Bust!....

- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 21, 2019

....proportionate to shooting down an unmanned drone. I am in no hurry, our Military is rebuilt, new, and ready to go, by far the best in the world. Sanctions are biting & more added last night. Iran can NEVER have Nuclear Weapons, not against the USA, and not against the WORLD!

- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 21, 2019 Transcript, via NBC News: CHUCK TODD: So did you green light something? Or had you said --   PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Nothing's-   CHUCK TODD: "If we do it, I'll do this." What was, what was the order you gave?                  PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Nothing is green lighted until the very end-   CHUCK TODD: Okay.   PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: --because things change, right?                  CHUCK TODD: So you never gave a final order?                  PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: No, no, no, no. But we had something ready to go, subject to my approval. And they came in. And they came in about a half an hour before, they said, "So we're about ready to go." I said, "I want a better definition--                  CHUCK TODD: Planes in the air? Were planes in the air?                  PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: No, no. "We're about ready to go." No, but they would have been pretty soon. And things would have happened to a point where you wouldn't turn back or couldn't turn back. So they came and they said, "Sir, we're ready to go. We'd like a decision." I said, "I want to know something before you go. How many people will be killed, in this case Iranians?" I said, "How many people are going to be killed?" "Sir, I'd like get back to you on that," great people these generals. They said, came back, they said, "Sir, approximately 150." And I thought about it for a second and I said, "You know what? They shot down an unmanned drone, plane, whatever you want to call it. And here we are sitting with 150 dead people that would have taken place probably within a half an hour after I said go ahead." And I didn't like it. I didn't think, I didn't think it was proportionate.

Ret. Col. Macgregor: Attacking Iran Would Provoke a War, Create a Coalition Of The Willing Against Us

Fri, 06/21/2019 - 16:54
Ret. Col. Douglas Macgregor told FNC's Tucker Carlson if President Trump ordered proportional response attack against Iran that would provoke a war and create a coalition of the willing against the United States. TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS: Douglas MacGregor is a former U.S. Army Colonel and author of "Margin of Victory." He joins us tonight. Colonel, thanks a lot for coming on. COL. DOUGLAS MACGREGOR, RET., U.S. ARMY: Sure. CARLSON: I don't want to be paranoid. But I've watched this before. It does seem as if the President is strongly opposed to conflict with Iran. He knows it will define his administration. He knows that it doesn't serve American interests, but that people who work for him are pushing the United States into a position where wars very likely, if not inevitable, am I imagining this? MACGREGOR: No, I don't think you are. I think the President has had his first Vietnam moment. He was walked up to the edge. He looked into the abyss and he said, "No, thank you." He followed his instincts, thank goodness and walked back. He has no interest in going to war. But you are right. He is surrounded by people in the Defense Department, in the chain of command, in his own National Security Council staff, in the State Department, who are absolutely committed to finding ways to attack Iran. I think the President understands that an attack on Iran would result in an all-out-war. The notion of limited strikes is absurd. The Iranians would respond with everything they have because their economy is at ruins, their backs are against the wall. He knows that. He doesn't want that, so we should be grateful. At the same time, I think the President has begun to figure out wars destroy presidencies. War destroyed LBJ. War destroyed ultimately, W -- George W. Bush. He doesn't want to join the pantheon of destroyed and failed Presidents that embarked upon wars that ultimately were not supported by the American people. And again, if the American people don't support it, forget it. We don't want to do it. CARLSON: Exactly. And they don't. Is there -- finally, is there some good reason to maintain this level of sanctions against Iran? Are we getting something out of that? MACGREGOR: Well, I think the idea was to destroy the Iranian economy and to bring the nation to its knees. That's really not what we should be trying to do at this point. I think the President senses that there is now an opportunity for diplomacy, for a new approach to Iran that could deescalate this set of conditions and produce a positive outcome. Look, this will ruin our economy if we engage Iran in a war. Iran will instantly have support from around the world. They will be the victims of this limited strike that is being discussed. The limited strike idea is sheer insanity. It will provoke a war. Everyone -- China, Russia, India, many European states will come to the aid of Iran. We will end up with a larger coalition of the willing against us, then we have seen in decades. I think the President has figured this out. He has got good instincts. But he needs to get rid of the warmongers. He needs to throw these geniuses that want limited strikes out of the Oval Office. The last thing the American First agenda needs is a stupid, pointless, unnecessary war with Iran and he knows that so he needs to act as much. CARLSON: As Bret Stephens and Bill Kristol would welcome that. It's insane. I agree with that. Colonel, thank you. Good to see you tonight. MACGREGOR: Thank you.

Putin Warns: Attack Against Iran Would Be A "Catastrophe," Lead To "Sad Consequences"

Fri, 06/21/2019 - 14:12
Russian President Vladimir Putin said Thursday in a televised interview that an American attack on Iran would lead to "catastrophic" consequences, the costs of which would be "difficult to calculate." "The New York Times" reported Thursday night that President Trump almost approved military strikes on Iran overnight in response to the downing of an American drone near Iran earlier this week, claiming American planes were "in the air" to attack Iranian radar and missile sites before Trump ordered the mission be aborted. "I want to say it would be a catastrophe for the region at least," Putin said. "It would lead to an influx of violence, to an increase of flow of refugees from the region. But I think for those who would make such attempts t would also lead to sad consequences. It is hard to predict what can follow the application of military force. We would not want the events to evolve according to this scenario." "As for Iran, in general, it fully complies with IAEA --the organization that controls the nuclear technology, and does not violate anything," he said.

'Fox & Friends' Host Brian Kilmeade: Iran Will See Inaction "As Weakness"

Fri, 06/21/2019 - 14:00
"Fox & Friends" host Brian Kilmeade said on Friday that Iran is acting like a wounded animal but it would be "pretty quick and easy" for the U.S. and Israel to win a war against them. BRIAN KILMEADE (CO-HOST): How much are they going to push us? They are bombing the commercial vessels of our allies, they just shot down a drone we didn't think they were capable, according to some reports, of shooting down. We were in international waters. Their explanation is farcical. So, people have to wonder. North Korea is watching, Turkey's watching, Russia's watching, China's watching. What's it going to take for America to actually act? ... AINSLEY EARHARDT (CO-HOST): You were asking [retired Gen. David Perkins] -- you said something about it looks like we are not acting. He said, no, it's not that we're not acting. He said they expect us to hit back immediately and it is not to our advantage to do that. He is a general. These are the experts that are telling the president. There is a reason he pulled back at 7:30. Maybe it was to get Iran's attention. Maybe it was allies were calling him, saying if you don't strike then we will help you in this matter. ... KILMEADE: But I will say this. Part of the story is that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, former director of the CIA, military guy for years and graduate of West Point, was for a strike. John Bolton, with as much experience as anyone on Capitol Hill, was for a strike -- EARHARDT: Gina Haspel was for it. KILMEADE: -- But the Pentagon, without a really full-time secretary of defense, were the ones who pushed back because they were worried about the next wave and the responses. And the result was somehow, some way -- and we'll get the answer shortly, I hope -- the president decided to pull back with the planes in the air. ... KILMEADE: I think by not doing something, he is doing something. There are consequences for non-action and there's consequences for action. In the Middle East a non-action is looked at, in many cases, as weakness. And the one quote that just sticks out with me -- and it still holds up today -- Thomas Jefferson to John Adams. He said, "If you don't punish the first insult, more are sure to follow." And what we have seen is, we didn't punish the first insult and more are to follow. STEVE DOOCY (CO-HOST): See, I think the president did take action yesterday. KILMEADE: Which was what? DOOCY: He ordered a strike and the planes were put in place. The planes were in the air and the ships were in position. So -- and then at the last minute he says hey, Iran, I'm giving you one last chance. Let's talk this through. Essentially the message is, I can call somebody right now and there will be a response. Apparently the raid, which was to happen this morning, Iran time, would have targeted radar installations and missile batteries. But in the meantime -- EARHARDT: The missile battery that shot down our drone. DOOCY: Exactly. How they figured out the surface-to-air missile. KILMEADE: That's a nice message.

Donny Deutsch and Joe Scarborough: Americans Can Be Grateful President Trump Is Demonstrating "Restraint" With Iran

Fri, 06/21/2019 - 13:35
MSNBC hosts Joe Scarborough and Donny Deutsch, known for their blistering criticism of President Trump, discuss reports that President Trump almost approved military strikes on Iran Thursday night in response to the downing of an American drone near Iran earlier this week and conclude that Americans should be grateful that he decided not to go through with it. "The New York Times" reported Thursday night that American planes were "in the air" to launch attacks on Iranian radar and missile sites before Trump ordered the mission be aborted. DONNY DEUTSCH, MSNBC: I'm the first one to pile on the president, but the one thing that will always be terrifying --he demonstrates this every day-- is his lack of discipline, his wild man with his hand on the button. But, as a guy who is always piling on on him, you have to give him credit, in the most important moments he has shown restraint. So we can pile on and say he acts tough and then he backs off. This, I have to give him credit. It is easy to push the button. If we say, we, he's not as strong as he says. This is the one area, the most important area, where he does show some restraint so let's go back on that. JOE SCARBOROUGH: I remember back during the campaign, Donald would say, "Everybody is saying I'm going to start a nuclear war. I'm the last person who would start a nuclear war because I'm not a guy who wants to intervene." It's good to know that is his instinct and it has been his instinct throughout his life. It is interesting that he has Bolton and others, Pompeo and others around him that I think would go full on attack. But during the campaign, he had some conflicting statements about Iraq, but I'm sure he remembers, always having to brush aside the parts where he said it would be good for the economy and, hey, I guess we need to go in and he clung to those statements where he was opposed to Iraq, said it was a stupid operation. There was a lot of people that were talking yesterday that didn't seem to remember the mistakes that a lot of us made in Iraq, going into Iraq, supporting a war with Iraq. Iraq would be a gentle spring shower, picking flowers as you walk through the rain with puppy dogs running around your feet compared to Iran. DONNY DEUTSCH: Yup. JOE SCARBOROUGH: And, by the way, here's the most important thing, Donny, I think we have Iran right where we want them now. Right now they are economically squeezed, they are going to their knees. At some point time's on our side, they're going to have to make a deal with us. They just are. They're going to have to go to Europe and have Europe figure out a way to have us ease these sanctions. Why give them any advantage on the world stage by launching military strikes right now? DONNY DEUTSCH: Isn't it ironic how we talk about there are no grown-ups around Trump, and yet the people around him are saying let's go, let's go and this is the guy putting a yellow light up there. But once again, he is really demonstrating restraint here. I even said he is capable of anything, starting a war to save his presidency, but once again he is really demonstrating restraint here. JOE SCARBOROUGH: Just so you don't get killed on Twitter today, you're talking about the military realm. He's surrounded by people who would have five wars by now. DONNY DEUTSCH: Yes. As I said, that is the ultimate irony of his presidency and him as a man. And is it beyond -- I want to ask you a question. They let the "Times" know what happened. Is this a chance this was a little theater, that basically let's put this in motion? We're going to set Trump up to be the good guy here and open up the diplomatic thing? Maybe it was never intended -- JOE SCARBOROUGH: Oh no, no, no, no. The Pentagon would never do that. DONNY DEUTSCH: I stand corrected. JOE SCARBOROUGH: The Pentagon is angry this morning, as Colin Powell once said, you don't use our men and women as toy soldiers. That's exactly what happened. That would have never happened. I do want to pick up on a point, though, that you made while we were not eviscerating the president for one morning, why don't we just keep doing that for a second. Gene Robinson, I had one of my children ask me about all the lies of Trump and how devastating it was, and I said it is terrible. It's terrible that he's lying and that he's setting this example and they say, well, what are the consequences of the lies and I went through all of it. But you know what, though, one thing that is interesting and I brought up war. Just seen Ken Burns and documentary on Vietnam. I said, we've had presidents who have lied before and the results have been far more extreme. John Kennedy in 1963, Ken Burns picked up on a tape talking about Vietnam, saying we could never win there, the people hate us there but we can't pull out until after the election, we'd get destroyed politically. L.B.J. in 1964, right after he got in there, saying there's no way we can win that war but we can't get out either. 57,000 young Americans died because of those presidents lying to the American public, saying -- I'm not defending Donald Trump here. I am just saying that presidents have lied and the impact has been deadly and some would say far more extreme, and I think, of course, he'll probably launch a huge attack tonight, but we can at least be grateful that this president's instinct is, when it comes to war, is less, not more. EUGENE ROBINSON: And I'm grateful for that, so I'll join the chorus on that.

Sam Donaldson: Biden Delivered "Mother Of All Gaffes"; Needs To Be Fully Apologetic, Not Double Down

Fri, 06/21/2019 - 07:06
Former ABC News White House correspondent Sam Donaldson is asked by CNN's Don Lemon if Joe Biden's reaction to criticism for his talk of compromising with segregationists is something that "Democrats want to hear." "I don't know. But it's what I want to hear. Biden's right," Donaldson answered. Donaldson chided Biden Thursday night for throwing kerosene on his own bonfire by doubling down and not offering full contrition to Cory Booker. CNN's Lemon noted not apologizing is "very Trumpian." DON LEMON, CNN HOST: So, Sam, listen, for three years now Republicans on Capitol Hill have been in lockstep with President Trump. For eight years before that they worked to stymie virtually everything Barack Obama did, along with Joe Biden. So, you know, is this what Democrats want to hear? SAM DONALDSON: I don't know. But it's what I want to hear. Biden's right. You've got to work with somebody else if you have a common interest, and the fact that you don't agree with him or her on some other interest is not the point. So Biden is right to say I can do that. But what a mother of gaffes to use two Southern segregationist Senators as an example. Where is he living? He wants to be president of the United States in 2021 so he goes back to 1970 and says look there. That's wrong, Joe, and I think he knows it now. He could have done two things. He could have done nothing and let the storm roll over him, it will go away, or he could have apologized directly and been fully apologetic. Instead, he doubles down on Cory Booker. This is terrific. You should apologize to me, he says, and he throws kerosene on his own bonfire and energizes his own opponents. LEMON: It's very Trumpian. DONALDSON: Joe, if you want to be president, you've got to change your tactics. LEMON: It is very Trumpian though, don't you think, to double down? DONALDSON: Well, yes, but is he going to copy Donald J. Trump and beat Trump at his own game? You can't beat Trump at his own game. You got to beat Trump on a game of honesty, of truth, of manners, facts, that's the game Joe Biden is capable of winning.

Tucker Carlson: Washington Wants A War Badly With Iran

Fri, 06/21/2019 - 06:48
Tucker Carlson delivers a monologue on President Trump being pushed into military action following Iran downing a U.S. drone. TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS: Since 9/11, the U.S. has spent trillions of dollars and thousands of American lives trying to remake the Middle East in our image. It's sad to say it out loud, but we have to, it hasn't worked. Many of us thought it would, but it hasn't. By every measure, our foreign wars have ended in dismal failure for the United States, however noble their intentions and some did have noble intentions. Donald Trump was one of the rare Republican politicians honest enough to admit this. He said it out loud three years ago, and promised not to repeat the same mistakes if elected President and partly because he said that he was elected President. Now something fascinating is happening. The very people, in some cases, literally the same people who lured us into the Iraq quagmire 16 years ago, are demanding a new war, this one with Iran. The President, to his great credit appears to be skeptical of this -- very skeptical. Iran recently downed an unmanned American drone, the President speaking today seemed to suggest this shouldn't necessarily trigger a conflict with Iran. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT: Iran made a big mistake. This drone was in international waters. Clearly we have it all documented. I would imagine it was a General or somebody that made a mistake in shooting that drone down. Unfortunately, that drone was unarmed. It was not -- there was no man in it. And there was no -- it was just -- it was over international waters, clearly over international waters, but we didn't have a man or woman in the drone. We had nobody in the drone. It would have made a big difference, let me tell you. It would have made a big, big difference. I find it hard to believe it was intentional, if you want to know the truth. I think that it could been somebody who was loose and stupid that did it. (END VIDEO CLIP) CARLSON: So that's not nearly bellicose enough for the permanent foreign policy establishment in Washington, many of whom crave a war with Iran, and see every provocation as an opportunity to start one. Senator Lindsey Graham, for example, says Americans ought to be ready to fight and die for shipping lanes on the other side of the world. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM, R-S.C.: So here's what to watch for. If the Iranians follow through on their threat to starting reaching again at higher levels to basically take their enrichment program to a kind of a nuclear level in terms of a weapons grade production, Israel's in a world of hurt. So the best thing the President can do is stop that and how do you stop that to make Iran understand you're not going to let that happen? I think you should put their oil refineries on our target list and that he should look at sinking the Iranian Navy if they attack shipping again. (END VIDEO CLIP) CARLSON: So in Washington, there are no real consequences for being wrong. And as a result policymakers are. They make the same mistakes again and again, and it's certainly not just Lindsey Graham. At "The New York Times" left-wing warmonger, Brett Stevens is also calling on America to sink the Iranian Navy. Many on the left are for it. John Bolton cheers him on from within the White House. Bill Kristol nods with approval from outside the White House. None of these people will admit their actual intentions. Let's say they don't really want to war with Iran. That's a crock. They want to work badly, badly enough to lie about it. That's why they're putting American troops into situations where conflict is inevitable in order to start a war. Everyone in Washington knows exactly what's happening. They've seen it many times before.

Rachel Maddow: Hope Hicks Transcript Shines Light On Possible Lewd Trump Tape

Fri, 06/21/2019 - 06:43
MSNBC: Rachel Maddow reports on the evasiveness and obstruction of testimony by former Donald Trump aide Hope Hicks before the House Judiciary Committee, but finds insight in a passage about how the Trump campaign handled the Access Hollywood tape while a rumored lewd tape of Trump with Russian prostitutes was assigned to Michael Cohen to handle.

Booker: Biden Should Explain Himself, I Don't Want An Apology

Fri, 06/21/2019 - 06:36
In an interview with MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell, Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) spoke about the "constructive conversation" he had in a phone call with Joe Biden Thursday night. Booker said he could not run with Biden on the ticket because he believes the presidential and vice presidential nominees should not be two males. "Could you run on a ticket with Joe Biden?" O'Donnell asked. "I don't think there should be two men on a ticket," Booker said. "I think given the field we have, extraordinary people, we should have tickets with racial and gender diversity. We are a party that should talk to who we are as a nation. We are a nation with extraordinary." Booker said the former vice president doesn't need to be told why what he said about working with segregationist colleagues was offensive. The Senator said Biden went "too far" when he refused to apologize and said that he is the one who should be apologizing. However, in an interview just the night before, Booker said Biden "should apologize" to him. "I said my peace yesterday," Booker said. "He said I should know better and I feel very strongly what I know is that Joe Biden should not need to be explained to about why that word is so hurtful. Why what he said would be something that people would find offensive and harmful and not advanced like we should hope for our nominee or for the leader of our party to advance the cause of racial reconciliation and get us to a point where we feel mutually invested in healing a lot of these racial disparities that exist in our country. And so I am glad we had a good constructively conversation last night." "I had an opportunity to explain to him even further how and why African-American men who have been called boy before," Booker said. "Why racist Senators like those would look at him and call him 'son' as seeing themselves in him. And see in a black man and call them boy because they don't see themselves but they see someone they are dehumanizing or degrading. So having conversations like that is the kind of dialogue I think is a constructive thing." Booker would not say if Biden apologized or not because of the personal nature of the phone call. Booker said it's not about him and he doesn't want an apology and instead suggested Biden explain himself to the public. "I don't want to characterize a private conversation," Booker said. "I think that Joe Biden should explain to people because it's not about me. I don't feel like I want an apology to me. I think that this is something he should speak to the public about and I think he has an opportunity here." "I understand where his intentions were and his heart was. It's not about me or him. He said things that are hurtful and harmful and I believe he should be apologizing to the American people," he said.

Dem Rep. Schakowsky: No, Nancy Pelosi Did Not Tell Me To Back Off On Impeachment

Fri, 06/21/2019 - 06:08
MSNBC: Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL) explains to MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell her decision to support an impeachment inquiry against Trump, especially given her strong connections to Speaker Nancy Pelosi who is not yet supporting impeachment. "I did check with her," Schakowsky said of Pelosi. "We had a conversation about it. I told her that I was going to make this announcement. She never tried to talk me out of it. She continued to make very clear that our caucus is going to continue legislating and litigating and doing all the things we need to do to do the investigating to make sure that -- look, Nancy Pelosi has never shied away from talking about the president of the United States. As someone who committed crimes, someone who is unfit for office, as I have. She certainly didn't try to talk me out of this. On the other hand, she's proceeding ahead vigorously to do what she has been doing." "Nancy is the most sure-footed politician I have ever seen and is very confident in what she believes and what she is doing and not trying to press anybody to do anything," she later said. Schakowsky explained how "personal" impeaching President Trump is to her because her son has been encouraging her. The Congresswoman said she also has heard from "one thousand" people in her district that want the president impeached. "This is very personal. For me, it's very personal," she said. "Not only have I heard from over 1,000 people from my district, but it's personal because my son has been encouraging me. How could you, mom, as a progressive Democrat? Is there someone who is more deserving of being impeached? We're not the founding fathers thinking about the possibility of a Donald Trump? Is there a better example of someone who has defied the constitution and who has obstructed justice and who is every day diminishing our democracy?"

CNN Focus Group: Obama Voters Explain Why They Voted For Trump, Talk 2020 Choices

Fri, 06/21/2019 - 05:51
CNN's Alisyn Camerota sits down with a group of Democrats who voted for Donald Trump in 2016 to discuss where they stand on supporting the president now. ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN HOST: OK, time for our next NEW DAY voter panel. This time we gathered a group of self-described lifelong Democrats from the Rust Belt states of Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Indiana. All of them voted for Barack Obama in 2012 and then, in 2016, many of them switched to vote for Donald Trump. We wanted to know why they made that switch and how they feel about President Trump today. Here's our "Pulse of the People." (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) CAMEROTA: Show of hands, how many of you voted for President Obama during at least one of the elections? Great -- all of you. How many of you voted for President Trump? This is what I think is fascinating to so many of our viewers of how you can like both of these people. WIMBLEY: The first one pretty much was a dynamic of me being an African American. Just because I'm born black I'm supposed to have this allegiance to the Democratic Party. And to me, it was the most racist thing I ever did because I didn't care what his policy, it was just the fact that he was black. JOSEPH DIXON, DEMOCRAT, VOTED FOR TRUMP: With Trump, I was really sold as soon as he came down that escalator and announced that he was going to run. CAMEROTA: It's so interesting that you say that because that was exactly four years ago this week. What was it about that escalator ride? DIXON: It was almost like a big middle finger to all -- to the establishment -- to all of politics and I just felt that we really needed that. CAMEROTA: How many of you today regret your vote for President Trump or at least wouldn't do it again? Why not, David? DAVID SOBOROWICZ, DEMOCRAT, REGRETS VOTING FOR TRUMP: I just feel he has not acted properly as a president. He may get things done but I see him as an embarrassment. CHUCK HOWENSTEIN, DEMOCRAT, REGRETS VOTING FOR TRUMP: I think he fans the fires of hatred and I think he's a bully. I think he belittles people and calls people names. I think we're better than that. CAMEROTA: Ciarra, you didn't vote for him. What are your thoughts when you hear your fellow panelists talking about what motivated them? CIARRA WALKER, DEMOCRAT: Yes. I'm not surprised by the way that he kind of pulled people in. I have a child, he's 14. He's a young African American male. And just, you know, the injustices that have been happening around the country. We're extremely fearful, the African American community. And since he's become president it has become more fearful for us as a people. And so -- CAMEROTA: Darrell, why are you shaking your head no? WIMBLEY: It just amazes me. This is 2019. The race relations and the way that we perceive or the way we say things are happening in this country, I don't see it happening. CAMEROTA: I mean, there -- in terms of statistics, there has been an uptick in hate crimes in the past few years. WIMBLEY: You can say that. I truly don't believe it because I don't see it. I can statistically say anything, but I don't see it. CAMEROTA: Well, I mean, the people who chart it. For instance, the Anti-Defamation League. They chart it. WIMBLEY: I don't really even call that -- like, the Anti-Defamation League, the Southern Law Center -- to me, those are democratic institutions that will say and manipulate anything. Racism is not a microaggression. Racism is something painful and hurtful. And when we take microaggressions and turn it into the country's against black people, we're literally slapping the people in the face that went through real racism. CAMEROTA: And did you see Charlottesville as a microaggression? WIMBLEY: I saw Charlottesville as two groups of people that came to fight and do something bad. CAMEROTA: Good people on both sides, you saw? WIMBLEY: I saw two groups of people that came together and fought, and both of them were equally wrong. HOWENSTEIN: There wasn't good people on both sides. There was the KKK on one side and then there was the other side. It was -- it was -- for him to say there was good people on both sides, to me, that really turned me off of him. CAMEROTA: Is that when he lost you? HOWENSTEIN: Yes, he lost me there. I mean, you set an example as a father. To me, you should set an example as a president. I don't think he sets a good example for our children. CAMEROTA: And you didn't expect him to act that way when you voted for him? HOWENSTEIN: No, not at all. WALKER: The presidency, it's a leadership role and children look to leadership. WIMBLEY: They didn't look to it until Trump got in office. [07:55:01] WALKER: Not necessarily. Again, for children, you look for role models. CAMEROTA: I want to ask you guys about a big issue in the news this week and that's immigration. A show of hands -- how many people are very pleased with what President Trump has done with immigration? CATHERINE BOLDER, DEMOCRAT, TRUMP SUPPORTER: I am. CAMEROTA: What do you think he's done since the numbers have spiked on his watch, in terms of the people showing up on the southern border. BOLDER: Well, I think somebody is organizing people south of the border to bring them here. They are not poor and they don't need to come here for economic reasons. I mean, I see them on television. They all have cell phones and Nike tennis shoes on. CAMEROTA: They do? BOLDER: Many of them. CAMEROTA: The children -- you think that the children who are sick at the border do have that? BOLDER: The children -- some of those children are being rented out to immigrants. CAMEROTA: And what has President Trump done to help the situation? BOLDER: President Trump is trying to get that wall built so it slows it down. CAMEROTA: But he's not done that so that's not a success yet. BOLDER: Well, it's in progress -- it's in progress. WIMBLEY: The Democrats made sure that that got -- BOLDER: And the Democrats have made sure that Trump is not going to get a single win. CAMEROTA: They're not in the majority anymore. BOLDER: They're not going to work with him for anything. They were all for a wall before when Obama was president. WIMBLEY: They have to give him the money for the wall. CAMEROTA: But, I mean, just to be clear, when Republicans controlled both Houses of Congress, the president couldn't get the wall built either. WIMBLEY: It was a very short term. CAMEROTA: David, how do you feel about immigration? SOBOROWICZ: We need some immigrants, for sure, whether they're illegal or legal or whatever. There's too many jobs out there that nobody wants to do in America and we need them -- BOLDER: But they need to come the right way. DIXON: If I came from some of these places that these people are trying to come from and went through what a lot of them are trying to go through, I'd probably be trying to get here, too. CAMEROTA: Ciarra? WALKER: I think it's disheartening, especially the way that I saw those children crying for their parents and again, being caged away like animals. It's heartbreaking. I mean, who would want to see their children being locked away like animals? WIMBLEY: You purposely brought your family to this border. You purposely walked through two countries with your kids -- CAMEROTA: So whatever happens to them happens, is what you're saying. WIMBLEY: If I put my child in -- if I put my child in harm's way it is my fault, not yours. CAMEROTA: But they're trying to get out of harm's way. WIMBLEY: You don't know what they're trying to get out of and you don't know -- CAMEROTA: I do because they -- WALKER: Absolutely. They're seeking asylum. WIMBLEY: You know what? I'm sorry, you don't have the right to be here. CAMEROTA: There is a legal process for asylum seekers. They actually do have the right to be here. WIMBLEY: And he did it. If you are here illegally you have proved to me that you're not going to follow my laws. You have proven -- you're breaking the law by being here. CAMEROTA: No, no. When they show up at the border and present themselves, that's not breaking the law. WIMBLEY: Stay at the border. You don't have the right to come in here until we figure it out. I don't want all these people. CAMEROTA: That's not true. They present themselves -- WIMBLEY: We don't -- CAMEROTA: -- at the border. WIMBLEY: You know what? I deserve a better life as an American. When you can take care of Americans and I've got something left over, I'll give it to you.

'Special Report' Panel: Iran Shoots Down U.S. Drone

Fri, 06/21/2019 - 05:45
Charles Hurt, Amy Walter, and Matthew Continetti discuss with guest host Mike Emanuel.

ABC's Tom Llamas Investigates: "Was Hunter Biden Profiting Off His Dad's Work?"

Fri, 06/21/2019 - 00:05
ABC NEWS: More than once, after Joe Biden engaged in diplomacy on behalf of the United States, his son, Hunter Biden, conducted business in the same country.

Schumer: "We're Worried" Trump "May Bumble Into A War" With Iran

Thu, 06/20/2019 - 23:53
Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said on Thursday he was worried that President Donald Trump may ''bumble'' into a war with Iran and he said there needed to be an open debate and a congressional decision on funding before any military operation was launched. "I told the president that these conflicts have a way of escalating. The president may not intend to go to war here, but we are worried that he and the administration may bumble into a war," Schumer said Thursday at the Capitol Building.

Sen. Chris Coons: Joe Biden Has Fought Hard For Civil Rights His Entire Political Career

Thu, 06/20/2019 - 23:31
Sen. Chris Coons (D-DE) on Joe Biden's recent comments about working with segregationists: "There is no doubt that Joe Biden fought hard for civil rights the entire time that he was in the U.S. Senate and certainly in his role as Vice President."

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